Ok, I've hijacked too many different threads trying to ask Cas questions about this that I can't even remember myself where to look for it.  I apologize to the originators of the following threads:

http://www.puppygames.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=81&highlight=
http://www.puppygames.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=71&start=15

So, I figured I'd start a new thread so pester Cas in.  Plus, this topic looked so nice and empty, I had to trample it with a new post!

Anyway, trying to get on topic.  Cas, when you hear anything from Sun about possibly getting a license to distribute a stripped down JVM (as mentioned in the above links), please post here and let me know.  Thanks!

Paul

Of course Everyone will know pretty much immediately something happens on this front I'm sure!

Cas

Hey Cas,
Is this something you've already written or something you've already written?

I've not "written" anything but I have deleted nearly everything in rt.jar that's not needed to load a JVM and run main(). It shrank down to 2.5Mb or something. I could have gotten a lot more stuff thrown out but the Sun JVMs anr rt classes have some irritating interdependencies.

All I want is a bytecode execution engine really that can load and run classes from a jar.

Cas

I see...
So, what is wrong with that?
Thought I saw something about Sun not going along with it for distro...??

I did a Google search of Open Source Java Virtual Machine and found a lot of interesting links...

If Sun won't play ball maybe there are some alternatives?
Just a thought.

Well, right about now - there's Jet. And Jet really is the dog's bollocks. It's proper fast but a little awkward to use.

Cas

Oh, ok, that's what the Jet postings were about.
Cool.

And here I thought you were refering to the MS Access Database engine (joke)

-D