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[FIXED] Merge Links into Wiki
« on: December 08, 2010, 06:52:15 »
Not sure if this is the best place to put this post...

IMO, I think that it'd be best to just merge the outdated links at the main LWJGL home page into the Wiki and either remove them from the homepage or redirect to the wiki.
Those would be:

http://lwjgl.org/faq.php  (merge into here:  http://lwjgl.org/wiki/index.php?title=General_FAQ)
http://lwjgl.org/installation.php  (outdated)
http://lwjgl.org/documentation.php (merge into wiki, since wiki is supposed to be documentation anyway)


At the very least, installation.php should go.  It's outdated and confuses new users when they try the outdated information and then doesn't work.  By merging it with the Wiki, we could keep it up-to-date as a community, or just admins could have correct privileges to update it.

Other things could really be merged into the Wiki as well, like projects and demos, and that way both of those would be up-to-date as well.

What do you think?
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Offline Matzon

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Re: [IDEA] Merge Links into Wiki
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2010, 08:15:56 »
I agree - the more we can move to the wiki, the better.
We need to make a list of which pages goes where (similar to the 3 things you made).

My concern with the projects page is if someone abuses it somehow. Right now all projects are randomized - in the wiki everybody would be free to add it to the top. also some might use bigger images etc.

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Re: [IDEA] Merge Links into Wiki
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2010, 09:42:46 »
yeh good idea, agree, that the installation, faq, documentation and links pages should go.

The FAQ page is now out of date, I've merged the useful bits into the wiki faq and the page can now be deleted.

Installation Page as mentioned above is also out of date, there is a new tutorial for Eclipse on the wiki, however there is nothing yet for Netbeans and JCreator, not sure if the installation page instructions still work for those but once we have replacements on the wiki it should be OK to remove (maybe we can just move the current netbeans and jcreator stuff over).

Links page is also out of date (misses lots of new stuff) and should be moved to the wiki.

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Re: [IDEA] Merge Links into Wiki
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2010, 16:49:22 »
Moved the LWJGL Constitution About Page to the Wiki now, so that can get the chop too.
Its a bit inaccurate these days so could use a slight update too :)

<random radical thought> at this rate doesn't look too hard to just move the whole site over to mediawiki :)</random radical thought>
« Last Edit: December 08, 2010, 16:57:00 by kappa »

Re: [IDEA] Merge Links into Wiki
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2010, 08:09:16 »
I added a NetBeans tutorial:

http://lwjgl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Setting_Up_LWJGL_with_NetBeans

It might be way too thorough, but I was thinking of the complete newbie when I wrote it, so I'm thinking we're good with NetBeans stuff.
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Re: [IDEA] Merge Links into Wiki
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2010, 09:34:51 »
I added a NetBeans tutorial:

oh brilliant, really nicely done tutorial, at this rate we'll have a full set of documentation in no time.

Currently working on a full slick-util tutorial here, hopefully will post it sometime later today.
« Last Edit: December 09, 2010, 09:40:38 by kappa »

Re: [IDEA] Merge Links into Wiki
« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2010, 09:23:48 »
Awesome!  Definitely need a Slick-Util tutorial.

I moved http://lwjgl.org/installation.php to here (Testing LWJGL section):
http://lwjgl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Downloading_and_Setting_Up_LWJGL
I changed it a tiny bit and updated it.

I did a straight copy & paste of JCreator's installation here:
http://lwjgl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Setting_Up_LWJGL_with_JCreator


http://lwjgl.org/installation.php  can be axed now if everyone approves.
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Re: [IDEA] Merge Links into Wiki
« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2010, 10:00:39 »
I added a tutorial to use TWL's PNGDecoder to the wiki.

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Offline Matzon

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Re: [IDEA] Merge Links into Wiki
« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2010, 10:07:28 »
I will update links to point to wiki where appropriate. I am still not sure the projects listing will work on wiki tho ..

Re: [IDEA] Merge Links into Wiki
« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2010, 00:47:06 »
On the Main Page, I added a Miscellaneous section with Links & Resources outside of LWJGL.  Mainly, I think that it's important that we have an up-to-date list of the game engines using LWJGL.  Links & Resources page.  It looks a bit sloppy right now, and I hope it's intuitive for new users to find it in the Miscellaneous section.  I thought about putting it in the "Getting Started" section on the main page, but didn't want users to go there first instead of looking at the tutorials provided at the main page.  Best place to put Links & Resources ???

@Matthias, Cool stuff.  I changed your pre's to use the java brush.  If you didn't want this, you can change it back of course.  I also added a link to your TWL and PNGDecoder to Links & Resources page.

@Matzon, I agree unless there is a way to restrict editing the page to admins only.  But, if someone has a new project using LWJGL, it would be nice to be able to add it without relying on admins; the Links & Resources page should be an adequate fix for this right now.
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Re: [IDEA] Merge Links into Wiki
« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2010, 01:12:29 »
Kind of a new problem that's annoying:  google isn't picking up LWJGL's wiki tutorials first when searching "lwjgl tutorials", "lwjgl netbeans", "lwjgl eclipse", etc.  Stupid google  :(
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Re: [IDEA] Merge Links into Wiki
« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2010, 20:49:37 »
@jediTofu nice work with the new bit on the wiki, took some time to help tweak it a bit more. However still needs further work but guess its slowly getting there. The more ppl working on it the better, feel free to continue updating it as you like.

Kind of a new problem that's annoying:  google isn't picking up LWJGL's wiki tutorials first when searching "lwjgl tutorials", "lwjgl netbeans", "lwjgl eclipse", etc.  Stupid google  :(
It'll get it eventually but the stuff's still relatively new.
« Last Edit: December 11, 2010, 20:57:09 by kappa »

Re: [IDEA] Merge Links into Wiki
« Reply #12 on: December 11, 2010, 23:35:05 »
Nice, that looks a lot better.  What's left to do?
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Re: [IDEA] Merge Links into Wiki
« Reply #13 on: December 11, 2010, 23:57:54 »
@Matthias, Cool stuff.  I changed your pre's to use the java brush.  If you didn't want this, you can change it back of course.  I also added a link to your TWL and PNGDecoder to Links & Resources page.
Nice - I didn't find this on the wiki help. But it doesn't do syntax highlighting?

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Re: [IDEA] Merge Links into Wiki
« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2010, 00:38:17 »
Full (4 part!) Slick-Util Tutorial is now up. :)

But it doesn't do syntax highlighting?
It does, but its very basic.

What's left to do?
- Something on OpenCL would be nice, even if its basic (have no idea on what or how to use that).
- Something on using JInput would also be cool.
- Java Web Start with LWJGL.
- Building LWJGL from source.
- Using LWJGL's extension stuff (with jws and applets).
- Tutorials to cover various advanced topics (Shadows, VBO, FBO, PBO, etc).
- but generally the more stuff the better :)

I think we've transferred all (most) the wikifiable information (and updated it to an extent) from LWJGL's website over to the wiki, so guess the site can be cleared up of the outdated stuff (namely the About, Installation, Documentation, FAQ and Links Pages).
« Last Edit: December 12, 2010, 00:44:54 by kappa »